> List established to discuss the political transitions in
> Mexico--Assasination, Elections, political parties, corruption,
> prospects for democracy, narcopolitics.
> Social changes and economic consequences of government policies,
NAFTA, Exchange rates, Mexican economy and industry, Peso Devaluation.
> A search for alternative solutions and proposals for the current
> mexican problems is encouraged.
> Both academic papers and personal accounts or statements are welcome.
> Also includes an informal Mexican news posting service
provided by members of the group of volunteers "mexnews"
>
> Discussion of the current murder investigations, corruption or
> narcopolitics, money laundering and the merging of the drug money
> and the mexican financial system. Also social issues like minimum salary,
> distribution of income, the informal economy, etc.
MEXICO2000 is an uncensored forum where the country's problems are analyzed
and discussed, including the complex interelationships between them. The
> search for solutions and constructive proposals will be encouraged with
> a view to what programs,social, economic, political should be implemented to
> start addressing the medium and long term problems of the nation.
>
> Discussion of the current economic, political and social issues in Mexico
> but focused to the search for a consensus on possible solutions or
> estrategies to apply during the changeover to a democratic system and to
> address the country's development without neglecting social needs and
> income distribution.
>
> News postings are used to enhance and complement the discussion, and
> keep list members aware of the ongoing situation in Mexico.
>
> >>> Discussions limited to subjects covered by forum<<<
For example, while immigration to the U.S. is a topic of importance in
> Mexico, it is best that postings exclusively related to the discussion of
> U.S. law and proposals such as Prop. 187 be sent to the forum
> frontera@profmexis.dgsca.unam.mx
> However, not be shy about sending messages that do not have Mexico as a
> central issue but are nonetheless related. For example,news on problems
> in other latinamerican economies similar to the problems in the Mexican
> economy are good complement to the disscussion in Mexico2000
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You could set your list
setting to the digest option, but you will miss some good material.
Unfortunately, no matter how much we try to cull the best of the news, it
is still hard to define what is "best" and only send that. What is best
for me might not be best for you. it is a hard balance. So we typically
err in the side of a little too much rather than too little.
A better option To reduce the mail volume, is to use the
"filters" have been created to cull the mails according to:
news: news in English
Noticias: News in Spanish
Comment: List members discussions
see information on these filters below
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distributed
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your mailbox
NONOTICIAS
To PREVENT receiving news in Spanish.
NONEWS
To PREVENT receiving news in English.
NOCOMMENT
To PREVENT receiving comments from the participants.
NOTICIAS
To receive ONLY news in Spanish.
NEWS
To receive ONLY news in English.
COMMENT
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The "filters" were created due to list members requests
to have a way to reduce the volume of mail coming in to
their mailboxes but without having to disconnect from the list.
Who are the persons that should use them?
well, if you live in Mexico and read La Jornada and
El Financiero every day, you might want to turn the
noticias en espanol switch off, and receive only discussion and
news in English.
Conversely, if you live in the U.S., and think the AP wires are
full of garbage, you might want to turn the news in English switch off.
Or you might want to turn both news switches off and participate only
in the discussions.
However, these, of course, are generalizations.
the news in spanish also include news from sources outside La Jornada,
just as the news in English include sources outside the AP, UPI wires.
Thus by turning a switch off, you might be missing on some good stuff.
What is the difference between this approach and having separate lists?
The answer is that the news tend to be source of discussion.
Thus by keeping them in one list, we set the reply option to the discusion
forum and keep the discussions alive.
For example, if someone is suscribed to news in english and discussion,
and replies to an item from the news in english asking for further
information or commenting on the news of the day, his/her reply will go
directly into the discussion forum, and be received even by those who have
the news in english switch off but the discussion switch on.
This allows to the individual list member tailor the mail volume but
yet maintains a way that all members can exchange comments.
Let us know if you are using the switches and feel that are not
working properly. Give us some time to work out the bugs.
Comments are welcome.
These instructions are exclusively for mexico2000@mep-d.org (or
NOTE ON SPECIAL SPANISH CHARACTERS AND SYMBOLS: While our software
correctly handles the ISO-8859-1 Latin-1 character set, some subscribers
have not configured their settings to deal with special characters, and
they will receive practically unreadable messages. It is up to the
subscribers to set their software correctly, as we do not alter any
messages in any way.
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Regardless of the host and domain shown within the list address in the
"From:" and "To:" lines in outgoing messages, the "Reply-To:" field is hard
wired to mexico2000@mep-d.org
If you require additional assistance, please contact listadmin@mep-d.org and
a human being will reply.
The list of subscribers will not be made public under ANY circumstances,
PARTICIPATION IN MEXICO2000 DOES NOT IMPLY MEMBERSHIP TO MEXICAN EXILES FOR
DEMOCRACY, THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED ON THE LIST AND THE ARTICLES SUBMITTED ARE
THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE SENDERS, AND NOT NECESSARILY REFLECT THE
VIEWS OF MEXICAN EXILES FOR DEMOCRACY, AS THE OPINIONS OF THE ORGANIZATION
NOT NECESSARILY REFLECT THOSE OF THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE LIST.
>>>Discussions limited to subjects covered by forum.<<<
WHO/WHAT IS MEXNEWS?
It is a group of volunteers that search for news of mexico on the
internet and posts on the lists Mexico2000 and chiapas-L, after which
they get reposted to soc.culture.mexican.
We try to provide a service that presents a different view on the news
from the regular U.S. and Mexican media. We do this by searching
many news sources and selecting the news that would otherwise get lost
in the noise.
We are always looking for volunteers, be mexican or non-mexican, english
or spanish speakers, in mexico or out of Mexico.
We have recently lost two members due to graduation. If interested,
send me an e-mail.
WHAT ARE THE RULES OF THE LIST?
There is no fixed set of rules. Only a few guidelines:
Do not use insults or be disrespectful (yes I know is hard).
Try to stick to the subjects of the lists, there are other lists where you
can discuss prop. 187 or mexican cuisine.
Since this is an uncensored forum, all views are welcome.
However, individuals that repeatedly use insults will receive
a note or two requesting a toning down of the messages.
We have a good list here. Let's keep it that way.
WHERE ARE THE LISTS ARCHIVES?
From: Molly Molloy <mmolloy@lib.nmsu.edu>
Subject: mx2000 archives
The digest of the
mexico2000 list is
being archived at the
following address:
gopher://lib.nmsu.edu/.subjects/.border/.netnews/.mx2000
The web link is at: http://lib.nmsu.edu/subject/bord/bord.html
and also http://lib.nmsu.edu/subject/bord/news.html
It says: Mexico and Border News from Internet Sources
This file produces a gopher menu which can
be browsed.
Any questions contact Molly Molloy at:
mmolloy@lib.nmsu.edu
>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Others suggestions to reduce list volume:
>
> Whenever a message is requesting information specific only
> to the sender, try to reply directly to his/her address rather
> than to the entire list. For example, if someone wants information
> on how to access the profmexis gopher, reply to him/her directly
> rather than to the entire list.
> Same goes for "me too" or " I want that too" messages to the
> entire list. If you want the same information, send a message
> to the original sender asking him/her to send you a copy of any
> replies he/she gets. If the original sender gets a lot of
> "me too" messages, maybe he/she can summarize/merge the replies
> and then send the summary to the entire list.
>
> Try not to send messages to both the Chiapas-L and Mexico2000> list.
While the lists do not have exactly the same membership,
> there is a lot of duplicate membership.
most of those that do not belong to both is because they
> do not want to. Thus, sending messages to both creates unnecessary
> duplication. Now, this does not mean that some extremely important
> messages, urgent requests for help and the like should not be
> duplicated. Just keep the objectives of the lists in mind when
> posting messages.
>
>>>Discussions limited to subjects covered by forum.<<<
ENGLISH AND SPANISH
While I agree that a number of members do not have full command of
spanish, most of them can read it in a significant way. I
do not think making this and English only list is the solution.
Then we are closing in a way the forum to those who do not have
full command of English.
Summarizing in the other language is great. If people have the time
which is not usually often.
I would rather like to see fully bilingual conversations.
Typically, most of the members of the list read the other language
but might not feel comfortable writing with it.
So, a possible solution would be, use the language you feel most
comfortable with. Even if the discussion is being carried out
in Spanish and you do not feel comfortable writing in Spanish, feel
free to answer or contribute in English. The conversation can
take place in both languages. If a Mexican reads English but
does not write comfortably and a non-mexican reads spanish but
does not write it comfortably, then write in your own language and
read the other. Answer to each other in your own language.
do not feel pressured to write in the same language of a thread.
Interject with comments in your own language. The conversation
can continue in the language it started. Or it can switch.
Or it can go back and forth depending on the individuals contributing.
En resumen, si lees ingles pero no lo escribes bien, no te sientas
presionado a contestar en ingles si una discusion en particular
esta sucediendo en Ingles. Sientete libre de contestar o proporcionar
comentario en Espanol. Y viceversa.
Subject: Que es Mexico2000?
MEXICO 2000 es un foro libre para la discusion de Mexico y su problematica.
Se busca fomentar la busqueda de soluciones y propuestas constructivas con
relacion a los programas sociales, economicos y politicos, entre otros, que
podrian instaurarse con objeto de afrontar los retos que enfrenta el pais, a
corto, mediano y largo plazo.
Tambien se intentara analizar estrategias que permitan a Mexico acceder a la
democracia, sin descuidar las necesidades sociales y de distribucion del
ingreso.
Entre otros temas que se discuten en la lista, estan las transiciones
politicas, reales o hipoteticas, por que atraviesa el pais --magnicidios,
investigaciones, encubrimiento; elecciones, partidos politicos, corrupcion,
esperanza de democracia, narcopolitica, lavado de dinero, incluyendo la
mezcla del dinero de las drogas con el capital transnacional "limpio",
atraves de los sistemas financieros mexicano e internacional; terrorismo de
estado y violaciones a los derechos humanos, cambio social y economico,
tanto como consecuencias de politicas gubernamentales, TLC, tasas de cambio,
economia e industria mexicanas, devaluaciones y su efecto social en cuanto a
poder adquisitivo, salario minimo y el costo real de vida, la economia
informal, distribucion del ingreso; y los efectos de todo ello en los seres
humanos que constituyen el pueblo de Mexico.
Este tipo de discusiones puede, muy facilmente, caldear los animos y
encender las pasiones; la mejor manera de mantener una discusion civilizada,
tradicional en en este foro, es tratar con los demas participantes tal como
si estuvieramos cara a cara. Ademas, recordemos que en Mexico aun se
acostumbra el Usted, y, si bien la mayoria de los participantes prefieren el
tuteo, otros no. Independientemente de que aun entre los angloparlantes,
hay quienes prefieren un trato mas formal.
Articulos noticiosos de diversas fuentes, enviados por los suscriptores
mismos fomentan la discusion informada de la vida nacional.
Mensajes que no tienen a Mexico como tema central, pero que estan
relacionados con la vida o problematica del pais, tambien son bienvenidos.
Tanto como aquellos referentes al efecto de cuestiones mexicanas sobre el
resto del mundo.
Contribuciones academicas y vivencias u opiniones personales son bien
recibidas en la lista, en ingles o espa~ol.
>
> INSTRUCCIONES PARA EL USO DE MEXICO2000
>
> Estas instrucciones son unicamente para mexico2000@mep-d.org (o
>
> NOTA EN CUANTO A ACENTOS Y CARACTERES ESPECIALES: La lista maneja
> correctamente caracteres ISO-8859-1 Latin-1 por lo que todos los caracteres
> especiales del idioma espa~ol son manejados, y transmitidos, correctamente.
> Sin embargo, muchos de los suscriptores no tienen configurado para manejar
> estos caracteres correctamente, y reciben mensajes practicamente ilegibles;
> queda a discrecion del ususario configurar su equipo correctamente, ya que
> los mensajes recibidos por la lista con caracteres especiales son
> distribuidos sin alteracion, del mismo modo que ningun mensaje es alterado
> por nosotros.
>
> PARA INSCRIBIRSE a mexico2000, ENVIE UN MENSAJE A majordomo@mep-d.org
con> EL TEMA ("SUBJECT"): >
> SUBSCRIBE MEXICO2000
>
> mep-d.org es el dominio en Internet de Mexicanos Exiliados pro-Democracia,
> es administrado por nuestra Unidad de Sistemas e Informatica
> <usi@mep-d.org>, la lista en si es manejada por nuestro Departamento de
> Listas <listadmin@mep-d.org>.
>
> Los comandos aceptados por majordomo@mep-d.org son los siguientes, y cada
> uno de ellos tiene que ser el tema ("SUBJECT") de un mensaje individual
> para que sean procesados. Para enviar mas de un comando a majordomo, CADA
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>
NOCOMMENT
Para NO recibir comentarios de los participantes.
>
NONOTICIAS
Para SOLAMENTE recibir noticias en espa~ol.
>
NEWS
Para SOLAMENTE recibir noticias en ingles.
>
COMMENT
Para SOLAMENTE recibir comentarios de los participantes.
>
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>
>From listadmin@mep-d.orgSun Feb 25 15:49:38 1996
From: "Admon. Listas MEP-D" <listadmin@mep-d.org>
Subject: Re: auxilio en los comandos
Los comandos son mas sencillos de lo que parecen, y todo es mediante correo
electronico; no hay menues con los que lidiar.
Primero: Para subscribirse a Mexico2000, envie un mensaje en blanco, a
con el
Subject: sub mexico2000
Si desea recibir todo el trafico de la lista, cada mensaje individualmente,
eso es todo lo que tiene que hacer.
Si, por el contrario, desea recibir la lista mediante alguna de las
opciones siguientes (solamente una opcion es valida a la vez), envie otro
mensaje en blanco a
con el
Subject: set mexico2000 ????
Donde ???? es una de las siguientes opciones:
DIGEST
COMMENT
NOCOMMENT
NOTICIAS
NONOTICIAS
NEWS
NONEWS
Lo que significa cada opcion es:
Digest: Recibe un compendio diario de la lista, en lugar de mensaje
individuales.
Comment: Recibe UNICAMENTE comentarios de los demas participantes, pero NO
noticias en ingles o espa~ol.
Nocomment: NO recibe comentarios de los demas participantes, UNICAMENTE
recibe noticias en ingles y espa~ol.
Noticias: Recibe UNICAMENTE noticias en espa~ol, pero NO comentarios de los
demas participantes ni noticias en ingles.
Nonoticias: NO recibe noticias en espa~ol, UNICAMENTE recibiendo
comentarios de los demas participantes y noticias en ingles.
News: Recibe UNICAMENTE noticias en ingles, pero NO comentarios de los
demas participantes ni noticias en espa~ol.
Nonews: NO recibe noticias en ingles, UNICAMENTE recibiendo comentarios de
los demas participantes y noticias en espa~ol.
Como vera Usted. no es tan dificil como suena; sin embargo, si prefiere que
manualmente procesemos su inscripcion y opciones, simplemente haganoslo
saber y con gusto le atenderemos.
Gracias por su interes.
Raul Rodriguez,
Administrador de Listas.
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